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Re: [indieallies-27] Jesus and Violence -
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Eli Renner < [address removed] > wrote:
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May 12, 2008
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May 12, 2008
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Re: [indieallies-27] Jesus and Violence - An even closer study of the story of the woman caught in adultery will suggest that it wasn't even in the original book of John. See Bart Ehrman's "Misquoting Jesus". It was added later as a margin note, and then even later incorporated
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May 12, 2008
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Meetup email list options - Hey everybody, Now that the email listserv for this group has taken off, I just want to make sure everyone is aware of the options, in case you're getting overwhelmed by the volume of emails, there is a simple thing you can do:
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May 12, 2008
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RE: Re: [indieallies-27] Recap from last night's discussion - from the "spins of ommission" link in my post below: '... The decreasing amounts of mercury on which the authors based their conclusion didn't actually decrease . Just a small detail that might be a factor in the f
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May 12, 2008
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May 12, 2008
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Re: Re: [indieallies-27] Recap from last night's discussion - My grandmother, who passed away from Alzheimer?s on Mother?s Day 6 years ago, told me several times that back in her day (the 40s and 50s) folks didn?t medicate children. They
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May 12, 2008
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Re: [indieallies-27] Recap from last night's discussion - Paul was not giving prescriptive advise to the government. He was appealling to his civil rights as a legal citizen citizen of Rome. Not unlike when a US citizen appeals to their civil rights as a legal citizen. A natural born or one gaining legal status
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Laura Hoffmann
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May 12, 2008
11:48 AM
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May 12, 2008
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Re: [indieallies-27] Jesus and Violence - Is anyone familiar with kevin craig's perspective on this? (not that i agree with all of it)... Jerry
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May 12, 2008
11:38 AM
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Re: [indieallies-27] Recap from last night's discussion - Hi folks... Bill here. I've only been to one of your meet-ups but I enjoy reading this loop.
Catherine, would you be willing to expand on your thoughts that being a minister or
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May 12, 2008
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Re: [indieallies-27] Recap from last night's discussion - Hod on...I sent the first re: by mistake this is the finished letter On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Laura Hoffmann < [address removed] > wrote:
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Re: [indieallies-27] Recap from last night's discussion - Gina, as I stated in the close of the letter Assume nothing. Judge not anyone or anything. Demonstrate Mercy by being merciful. Transcend Peace. Love one another. Your Assumptions of my intentions are
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May 12, 2008
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Re: [indieallies-27] Recap from last night's discussion - Hey ya all it's Cathryn.. just sending some love ya all's way.!!!!! yeah we're down in austin... and it's good... just lots to do to get settled... ect.... and looking for a home to buy in a short amount of time.. since we ar
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May 12, 2008
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RE: [indieallies-27] Recap from last night's discussion - I'm with you there- it seems like being a minister (or
priest) "fits" you to do everything- even if you know
nothing and have no background in it! (while those of
us who do have, watch them try.)
Catherine
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May 12, 2008
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May 11, 2008
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May 11, 2008
9:52 PM
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RE: [indieallies-27] Recap from last night's discussion - hi robert, thanks for the recommendation. i have just marked this on my amazon.com wish list. have you read this?:
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jerry leonard
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May 11, 2008
9:35 PM
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May 11, 2008
9:06 PM
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Robert Ricciardelli
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May 11, 2008
9:04 PM
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Re: [indieallies-27] Recap from last night's discussion - Hi Anthony, I don't think Paul was giving advice on how to run the empire but when to submit to the empire... ...and, I am glad there is another preterist sympathiser on the list
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May 11, 2008
7:24 PM
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Re: [indieallies-27] Recap from last night's discussion - Gina Ouch. "Don't shoot the messenger."? I am sorry you took issue with my email. It is obvious you have a passion to protect orphans, as do I. This is what motivates me: &nbs
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jerry leonard
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May 11, 2008
7:18 PM
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Robert Ricciardelli
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May 11, 2008
6:39 PM
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Bobby Scott
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May 11, 2008
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Robert Ricciardelli
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May 11, 2008
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May 11, 2008
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Re: [indieallies-27] Recap from last night's discussion - To ask if Paul gave prescriptive advice on how to properly run the Roman Empire is quite anachronistic if we think that a direct application of Paul's actions are relevant today. How would Paul act in a liberal democracy? I think it would
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May 11, 2008
5:18 PM
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May 11, 2008
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Re: [indieallies-27] Recap from last night's discussion - Sadly, I am not sure that our leaders are uninformed-
I think they DO know what's right, but choose to do
otherwise for a variety of reasons, power, to line
their own pockets, to make America more wealthy
through a variety of means, etc. Most (if not
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May 11, 2008
4:44 PM
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Re: [indieallies-27] Recap from last night's discussion - Right again! Not that I am advocating anarchy, but
there are certainly times...
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Catherine
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May 11, 2008
4:42 PM
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RE: [indieallies-27] Recap from last night's discussion - Right- and what concerns me most (besides REAL abuse
taking place), is that in situations like this (and
with school teachers, etc.), is that all it does take
is a FALSE report, and your children can be taken,
your job gone, and your life ruined. Wha
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Catherine
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May 11, 2008
4:41 PM
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And love covers a multitude of sins. Would we not expect that those who do not understand the love of God would imprison and beat us. But what was Christ's response? Forgive them for they know not what they do. He did not retaliate, he did not dea
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May 11, 2008
4:30 PM
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Re: [indieallies-27] Recap from last night's discussion - Jerry,
There's nothing wrong with being radical. Actually the word 'radical' comes from the root word 'radix' which means beginning or root of something. I embrace and enjoy the perspect
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May 11, 2008
2:22 PM
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Re: [indieallies-27] Recap from last night's discussion - Thank you Gina! Your response is more informed than the leaders biased information.(do your research, looking into sources other than those that support what one already believes to be true.) Blind Faith is no faith at all; it is a belief system based on
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May 11, 2008
12:49 PM
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May 11, 2008
9:57 AM
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Bobby Scott
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May 11, 2008
9:35 AM
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Re: [indieallies-27] Recap from last night's discussion - OOps- I think that as Christians, when we feel the
government is being immoral, we have to protest and
resist. Our higher loyalty is to God, after all! I
don't think scripture is talking about blind obedience
to an immoral system (wow, any flash-bac
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Catherine
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May 11, 2008
7:05 AM
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I am a Christian who has worked for a group home, in the government, with social service agencies, and was a foster child. Be careful of what you criticize that you don't really understand.
It i
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May 10, 2008
11:30 PM
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Re: [indieallies-27] Recap from last night's discussion - steve and all, thanks for links and the great discussion thursday night. i hope i was not too radical for the group...
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jerry leonard
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May 10, 2008
3:40 PM
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Speaking of faith with Shane Claiborne(new monastic) - Here is the link to the interview with Shane Claiborne that might serve as a type of quick and easy intro to new monasticism. http://speakingoffaith.publicr adio.org/programs/newmo
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May 10, 2008
2:44 PM
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Recap from last night's discussion - Hey ya'll, If you weren't there last night, you missed a great discussion! We had a few new(er) people there, which is always fun. Great to meet you, Jerry, Darren, and (to see you again) Tess (Godspeed on the next l
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Steve K.
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May 9, 2008
2:36 PM
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May 1, 2008
2:41 PM
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Fwd: N. Charlotte history event tonight - FYI -- Eli Renner passed this along and suggested it go out to the entire Meetup group. Check this out if you are interested and have time. I looks like it should be interesting! Hope to see ya'll next Thursday,
St
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Steve K.
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May 1, 2008
2:37 PM
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Fwd: need help packing April 27th ...... SOS - Hey everybody, Our friend Cathryn Thomas, who lives up near Greensboro (Julian, NC, to be exact) needs some help getting her house packed up for a cross-country move to Austin, Texas. If anyone is able to go up there on Sunday, April 27
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Steve K.
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Apr 14, 2008
11:01 PM
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Celebrate Together on Thursday! Register to Vote by Friday! - Hey everybody, I just wanted to drop you a quick note to remind you that we'll be celebrating the four-year anniversary of the Charlotte "Emerging Church Discussion Grou
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Steve K.
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Apr 8, 2008
11:01 PM
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Let's celebrate next Thursday! - Hey everybody, You probably got a reminder today about the next cohort meeting coming up next Thursday (4/10). If you RSVPed earlier, the website mistakenly had listed our meeting day and time wrong, which I've now fixed. So the correct day/tim
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Steve K.
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Apr 3, 2008
3:05 PM
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CT review of "Purple State" - Oops! I forgot to include the link to the CT review of "Purple State"! Here it is: http://www.christianitytoday.c om/movies/commentaries/purples
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Steve K.
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Mar 19, 2008
4:53 PM
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"Purple State of Mind" next Thursday (3/27)! - Hey everybody,
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Steve K.
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Mar 19, 2008
4:49 PM
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Peace Vigil, "Purple State," and more! - Hey everybody, I just wanted to give you a quick update on a few exciting things coming up: Monthly Meetup Don't forget we're moving the day and time of our main monthly Meetup to the second THURSDAY of the month, starting
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Steve K.
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Mar 7, 2008
2:42 PM
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Fwd: 24-7 Staffing - FYI -- From our friends at Charlotte 24-7, they are looking for more volunteers to help staff the urban prayer room, and they are having a meeting this Saturday (3/1) from 10-11 a.m. for anyone who is interested. Email Lisa Koons at
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Steve K.
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Feb 28, 2008
10:50 AM
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Tomorrow's "Bootcamp" and other upcoming events - Hey everybody, I just wanted to shoot out another quick reminder about the "Non-Militaristic Bootcamp of Friendship" with Doug Pagitt and Tim Conder all-day tomorrow up
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Steve K.
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Feb 18, 2008
10:35 AM
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It's a "New Day" (and Time) for the Emerging Church Discussion Group - Hey everyone, Due to a scheduling conflict for me, I can no longer meet on Tuesday nights, so, in partnership with our gracious hosts at 24-7 , we will be moving the monthly Emerging Ch
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Steve K.
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Feb 13, 2008
9:21 AM
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EMC Charlotte wrap-up and Other News - Hey everybody, I just want to say a HUGE thanks to everyone to helped make the "Everything Must Change" event with Brian McLaren happen last weekend. It took a lot of us giving a lot of ourselves to pull it off, and I think it went pretty
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Steve K.
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Feb 9, 2008
10:43 AM
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Everything Must Change Charlotte Needs Your Help - Hey everyone! The ?Everything Must Change? Tour with Brian McLaren and Friends is coming to Area 15 in Charlotte, in just over a month -- February 1-2, 2008 -- and I need your he
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Steve K.
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Dec 27, 2007
11:19 PM
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Artshow Tonight & Merry Christmas - Hey everyone, Carlos just wanted me to pass along the word that tonight in Charlotte is an Artshow at the roofless building on Parkwood Ave., starting at 7 p.m. It sounds like it's going to be alot of fun if you can make it out. Details are her
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Steve K.
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Dec 21, 2007
5:18 PM
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"Charlotte Talks" - Tonight at 9 p.m. - Hey everybody, My friend Chris Yambar is in Charlotte today speaking at the commencement ceremony at the Art Institute, and he was interviewed on "Charlotte Talks" (90.7 FM, WFAE,
www.wfae.org ) this mor
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Steve K.
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Dec 14, 2007
10:37 AM
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Event details changed: Emerging Church Discussion Group December Meetup - I've updated this event -- just to reflect our true plans to have a Christmas party (as opposed to our usual discussion group) ;-) Hope to see you there! Steve K. For more details, see the full listing:
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Steve K.
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Dec 10, 2007
2:10 PM
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Come to the Christmas Party Tuesday! - Hey everyone, I'm excited that we're going to be celebrating Advent/Christmas together on Tuesday night. We've had some wonderful discussions over the past 11 months, and maybe we can reflect on some of that and look ahead to the coming
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Steve K.
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Dec 9, 2007
10:40 PM
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Let's celebrate Christmas together! - Hey everybody, Catherine Sullivan had a great suggestion that we celebrate Christmas together at our cohort gathering next Tuesday! So let's plan to do that. I know Catherine has offered to bring some goodies to eat. If others can bring t
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Steve K.
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Dec 5, 2007
10:50 PM
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EMC Charlotte - Date Correction! - Ooops! In my previous email, I gave the wrong dates for the EMC event here in Charlotte. The correct dates are February 1-2, 2008! (Thanks, Ed, for catching my error and pointing that out!) Since I'm writing you again, twice in one
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Steve K.
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Nov 20, 2007
3:22 PM
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EMC Charlotte Discount Code - Hey everybody, There is now a special discount code for cohort members (and cohort friends) to attend the "Everything Must Change Tour" with Brian McLaren and Friends here in Charlotte, December 1-2, 2008, and it is ...
emergcoho
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Steve K.
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Nov 20, 2007
11:41 AM
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Meeting today at 4 p.m. - Hey everybody, This is just a quick reminder hat we're meeting today (Sat. 11/17) at 4 p.m. at Area 15 to talk about the upcoming "Everything Must Change" event with Brian McLaren and Friends. We especially need more volunteers for di
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Steve K.
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Nov 17, 2007
9:42 AM
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Here's the latest, everybody! - Hey ya'll, Sorry I've been a little
in commun
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Steve K.
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Nov 11, 2007
8:53 PM
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Fwd: We are now 27% people of color and growing! - Hey everyone, If you have not taken the Emergent Village Festival survey yet (and especially if you "fit the profile" outlined below), please take the time (5-10 minutes) to give your opinions that will help shape this upcoming event, whi
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Steve K.
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Oct 30, 2007
12:36 PM
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Take the Emergent Festival Survey - Hey everyone, You may have heard that Emergent Village is planning a "Greenbelt-style" arts/music/justice festival for sometime next year (probably end of June or early July). There's an online survey that's been posted to get fee
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Steve K.
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Oct 24, 2007
10:14 PM
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Soularize Feedlive, Oct. 25-27 - Hey everyone, The Soularize learning party is going on this week in the Bahamas with keynote speakers N.T. Wright, Brennan Manning, Rita Nakashima Brock, and Richard Rohr. The whole event is being made available online at
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Steve K.
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Oct 23, 2007
10:18 PM
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Volunteers Needed for "Everything Must Change," Feb. 1-2, 2008 - Hey y'all! I've posted a volunteer "sign-up" on the message board with details on different ways that people can be involved with the upcoming Brian McLaren event here in Charlotte (Feb. 1-2) and get to go for FREE. Take a l
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Steve K.
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Oct 11, 2007
11:06 PM
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"The E-Word" book uploaded - Hey everybody, Many of you responded to my earlier email re: reading and commenting on a new book being published by Abingdon Press. The book is "The E-Word: Faith in the Face of Evolution" (working title) by Daniell Harrell.
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Steve K.
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Oct 8, 2007
2:28 PM
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Re: [indieallies-27] Fwd: cohort want to read a ms? - Prayers coming your way for a good recovery...keep us
posted.
Catherine
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Catherine
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Oct 5, 2007
3:29 AM
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Re: [indieallies-27] Fwd: cohort want to read a ms? - Count me in too!
As it turns out, i'm going to have lots of down time the next month or so; i'm having to have major surgery next Monday (that's right - no Denver trip), and they anticipate six weeks recover
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magenta
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Oct 4, 2007
6:05 PM
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Oct 4, 2007
2:22 AM
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Fwd: cohort want to read a ms? - Hey everybody, Tim West at Abingdon Press (publisher of Scot McKnight's "A Community Called Atonement") has asked us if some of us would be interested in/willing to read and respond to a new manuscript they are getting ready to publis
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Steve K.
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Oct 3, 2007
10:03 PM
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Steve K.
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Oct 1, 2007
4:37 PM
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Dennis in Emergent/C - Hey folks, I just wanted to let you know that our very own Dennis Teall-Fleming is quoted at length in the latest edition of Emergent Village's email newsletter (Emergent/C). It's also posted on the EV blog, where you can read it and commen
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Steve K.
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Sep 27, 2007
10:34 AM
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Upcoming Events Update - Hey everybody, Some event news to pass along: + October 12-13 -- The Southeast Emergent cohort gathering with Scot McKnight has been CANCELED . If you were planning to go, Tripp Fuller tells me that the
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Steve K.
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Sep 22, 2007
3:58 PM
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Re: [indieallies-27] FirstShift study guide download details - Thanks, Jon! That was going to be my suggestion, with the PDF available to only group members. Good call! Peace, Steve K. On 9/17/07,
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Steve K.
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Sep 17, 2007
12:22 PM
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FirstShift study guide download details - kudos to rich for the insight (i didn't even know we had a fiiles
section!)
couldn't email the pdf. so it is available from the files section of
our meetup page. download and enjoy! and if you're like me and
didn't know about the files sectio
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Sep 17, 2007
12:17 PM
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FirstShift Guide - Here it is, as promised. Over the next few months we will be
focusing our time at the meetups on this group study from Brian
McLaren and co. It's called "FirstShift," and it will hopefully get
us geared up for the DeepShift conference in Feb.
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Jonathan Scruggs
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Sep 17, 2007
11:44 AM
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Brian McLaren in Greenville, SC, on Thursday - Hey everybody, I just wanted to pass along some news about Brian McLaren's speaking engagement this week in Greenville, SC. He'll be speaking Thursday night (9/20, 7-8 p.m.) at Furman University's main chapel as part of their &quo
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Steve K.
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Sep 16, 2007
3:00 PM
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Fwd: National Day of Action to End Anti-Immigrant Repression and Migrant Deaths at the Border - FYI -- This is happening tomorrow (Tuesday 8/28)
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Steve K.
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Aug 27, 2007
1:19 PM
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hi guys!...a new group at area 15 u might like...! -
pls come by and check out the "Charlotte Art meetup Group" that will be mtg at area 15, on tuesdays, at 6pm......our first mtg is tomorow!!!! and i would love to see an of u cats there! thanks, carlos http://art.meetup.com/314/cale ndar/62
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Aug 27, 2007
12:45 PM
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Lunch w/Brian McLaren this Saturday! - Hey everybody, I've just sent out an email with the details for this Saturday's lunch meeting in Asheville with Brian McLaren to everyone who had expressed interest earlier. If you are interested but did not receive the email (because you h
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Steve K.
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Aug 26, 2007
9:31 PM
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Re: [indieallies-27] Fwd: FW: FW: Financial Assistance Needed for Smithfield Families - Good idea. I will do something when I get paid next
week.
Catherine
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Catherine
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Aug 23, 2007
8:45 PM
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Fwd: FW: FW: Financial Assistance Needed for Smithfield Families - FYI -- This was forwarded to us by our friends at Citizens for Comprehensive Immigration Reform (CCIR) in Charlotte. More information about this situation can be found here:
http://www.smithfieldjust
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Steve K.
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Aug 23, 2007
4:22 PM
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Fwd: FYI because good news is good - Yo yo yo! It's official! check the details ... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tripp Fuller <
tripp
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Steve K.
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Aug 22, 2007
7:46 PM
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Aug 17, 2007
5:00 AM
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Upcoming Events Update - Hey everybody, A couple exciting things to report: 1) Tony Campolo in Charlotte, September 15-16, details are posted on the message board:
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Steve K.
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Aug 16, 2007
10:00 PM
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Fwd: Meet Barack at The Daily Show - OK I can't go with anyone of you to The Daily Show on August 22 (I'll actually be in the UK), but this is a pretty sinking cool promotion, if you ask me. If you aren't already signed up to get updates from the Obama '08 campaign, you shoul
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Steve K.
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Aug 16, 2007
9:10 PM
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Lunch w/ Brian McLaren, Sat. Sept. 1 (tentative) - Hey ya'll, Brian McLaren is coming to North Carolina next month for a private speaking event in Black Mountain. I've been working with his "booking agent" Laci Scott to set up a lunch meeting with Brian on as a chance for some of
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Steve K.
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Aug 5, 2007
1:35 PM
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Fred S.
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Jul 24, 2007
11:28 AM
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NEW LOCATION this month - Hey everybody, We're moving the Meetup for the first time in a long time, so I want to make sure everybody knows where we'll be meeting on Tuesday (7/10). The street address is: Area 15 514 E. 15th St. Charlotte, NC 28206
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Steve K.
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Jul 8, 2007
10:35 PM
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Steve K.
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Jun 27, 2007
10:58 PM
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House Concert with Romantica - Hey everybody, Becky and I are having a concert at our house on Sunday, July 1, with some special musical guests. We'd love to have some of you come out to Gastonia to hang with us at our place, hear some great music, drink some good beer and/o
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Steve K.
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Jun 20, 2007
9:43 PM
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Lunch with DJ Chuang on Thursday (6/21) - Hey ya'll, Blogger DJ Chuang is moving his home and family from DC to the OC (California) over the next 3 weeks, and they'll be passing through Charlotte on Thursday (6/21):
http://www.co
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Steve K.
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Jun 18, 2007
12:09 AM
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Fwd: Fathers Day Justice at Smithfield - Hey ya'll, FYI -- In case you're interested in fighting for some justice this weekend. Take a look at the details below (and attached) and see if you might want to be involved! Shalom, Steve K.
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Steve K.
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Jun 13, 2007
7:56 AM
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Fwd: CALL YOUR SENATORS TODAY TO KEEP IMMIGRATION MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION - Preview not available
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Steve K.
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May 24, 2007
12:01 PM
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Re: [indieallies-27] Cohort Book Project UPDATE - Sounds interesting- tell me more! By the way, my
night job is over, so I am back on board for our
Tuesday nights (This means I am job hunting- know of
any? ANY??)
Catherine
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Catherine
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May 15, 2007
8:45 AM
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Cohort Book Project UPDATE - Folks, I finally ran this idea past Mr. Doug Pagitt (who is on the publishing committee for
Emersion B
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Steve K.
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May 14, 2007
10:43 PM
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Vigil for Immigrants - Tonight! - Hey everyone, I just wanted to let you know that I'm planning to attend tonight's "Vigil for Immigrants" at Government Center Plaza in downtown Charlotte (see details below). My kids and I will be there wearing our white T-shirts! If
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Steve K.
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May 1, 2007
3:35 PM
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